Security. Cryptography. Whatever.

Software Safety and Twitter, with Kevin Riggle

Thu, 24 Nov 2022 03:00:00 -0500

We talk to Kevin Riggle (@kevinriggle) about complexity and safety. We also talk about the Twitter acquisition. While recording, we discovered a new failure mode where Kevin couldn't hear Thomas, but David and Deirdre could, so there's not much Thomas this episode. If you ever need to get Thomas to voluntarily stop talking, simply mute him to half the audience!

https://twitter.com/kevinriggle

Transcript: https://beta-share.descript.com/view/WTrQGK4xEVj

Errata

It was the Mars Climate Orbiter that crashed due to a units mismatch
David confused the Dreamliner with the 737 Max

Links

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Matrix, with Martin Albrecht & Dan Jones

Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:00:00 -0400

No not the movie: the secure group messaging protocol! Or rather all the bugs and vulns that a team of researchers found when trying to formalize said protocol. Martin Albrecht and Dan Jones joined us to walk us through "Practically-exploitable Cryptographic
Vulnerabilities in Matrix".

Links:

https://nebuchadnezzar-megolm.github.io/static/paper.pdf
https://nebuchadnezzar-megolm.github.io
Signal Private Group system: https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/1416.pdf
https://signal.org/blog/signal-private-group-system/
https://spec.matrix.org/latest/
WhatsApp Security Whitepaper: https://www.whatsapp.com/security/WhatsApp-Security-Whitepaper.pdf
https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity21/presentation/albrecht FS, PCS etc
Other clients: https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-39252 https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-39254 https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-39264
https://dadrian.io/blog/posts/roll-your-own-crypto/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-great-roll-your-own-crypto-debate-feat-filippo-valsorda/id1578405214?i=1000530617719
WhatsApp End-to-End Encrypted Backups: https://blog.whatsapp.com/end-to-end-encrypted-backups-on-whatsapp
Roll your own and Telegram: https://mtpsym.github.io/

Transcript: https://beta-share.descript.com/view/u3VFzjvqrql

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"Security. Cryptography. Whatever." is hosted by Deirdre Connolly (@durumcrustulum), Thomas Ptacek (@tqbf), and David Adrian (@davidcadrian).

SOC2, with Sarah Harvey

Sun, 16 Oct 2022 17:00:00 -0400

We have Sarah Harvey (@worldwise001 on Twitter) to talk about SOC2, what it means, how to get it, and if it's important or not. The discussion centers around two blog posts written by Thomas:

SOC2 Starting Seven: https://latacora.micro.blog/2020/03/12/the-soc-starting.html
SOC2 at Fly: https://fly.io/blog/soc2-the-screenshots-will-continue-until-security-improves/

Links:

Tailscale recent post on getting SOC2’d: https://tailscale.com/blog/soc2-type2/
SSO Tax: https://sso.tax
David’s previous job: https://getnametag.com
David's other startup: https://censys.io
Thomas works at https://fly.io

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Transcript: https://beta-share.descript.com/view/XF24jrLSOX9

"Security. Cryptography. Whatever." is hosted by Deirdre Connolly (@durumcrustulum), Thomas Ptacek (@tqbf), and David Adrian (@davidcadrian).

Nate Lawson II

Thu, 29 Sep 2022 17:00:00 -0400

This episode got delayed because David got COVID. Anyway, here's Nate Lawson: The Two Towers.

"Security. Cryptography. Whatever." is hosted by Deirdre Connolly, Thomas Ptacek, and David Adrian.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/0KOcX9TR05p

Errata:

Pedram Amini did in fact do Pai Mei

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Nate Lawson: Part 1

Fri, 09 Sep 2022 16:00:00 -0400

We bring on Nate Lawson of Root Labs to talk about a little bit of everything, starting with cryptography in the 1990s.

References

IBM S/390: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5389176
SSLv2 Spec: https://www-archive.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/ssl/draft02.html
Xbox 360 HMAC: https://beta.ivc.no/wiki/index.php/Xbox_360_Timing_Attack
Google Keyczar HMAC bug (reported by Nate): https://rdist.root.org/2009/05/28/timing-attack-in-google-keyczar-library/

Errata

HMAC actually published in 1996, not 1997
"That was one of the first, I think hardware applications of DPA was, was, um, satellite TV cards." Not true, they first were able to break Mondex, a MasterCard smart card

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Hot Cryptanalytic Summer feat. Steven Galbraith

Thu, 11 Aug 2022 14:00:00 -0400

Are the isogenies kaput?! There's a new attack that breaks all the known parameter sets for SIDH/SIKE, so Steven Galbraith helps explain where the hell this came from, and where isogeny crypto goes from here.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/Xiv307FvOPA

Merch: https://merch.scwpodcast.com

Links:

https://eprint.iacr.org/2022/975.pdf
https://eprint.iacr.org/2022/1026.pdf
https://ellipticnews.wordpress.com/2022/07/31/breaking-supersingular-isogeny-diffie-hellman-sidh/
GPST active adaptive attack against SIDH: https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/859.pdf
Failing to hash into supersingular isogeny graphs: https://eprint.iacr.org/2022/518.pdf
https://research.nccgroup.com/2022/08/08/implementing-the-castryck-decru-sidh-key-recovery-attack-in-sagemath/
Kuperberg attack via Peikert: https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/725.pdf
SQISign: https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1240.pdf
(Post recording) Breaking SIDH in polynomial time:
https://eprint.iacr.org/2022/1038.pdf

"Security. Cryptography. Whatever." is hosted by Deirdre Connolly, Thomas Ptacek, and David Adrian.

"Security. Cryptography. Whatever." is hosted by Deirdre Connolly (@durumcrustulum), Thomas Ptacek (@tqbf), and David Adrian (@davidcadrian).

Passkeys feat. Adam Langley

Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:00:00 -0400

Adam Langley (Google) comes on the podcast to talk about the evolution of WebAuthN and Passkeys!

David's audio was a little finicky in this one. Believe us, it sounded worse before we edited it. Also, we occasionally accidentally refer to U2F as UTF. That's because we just really love strings.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/pBAXADn8gKW

Links:

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Hertzbleed

Fri, 17 Jun 2022 22:00:00 -0400

Side channels! Frequency scaling! Key encapsulation, oh my! We're talking about the new Hertzbleed paper, but also cryptography conferences, 'passkeys', and end-to-end encrypting yer twitter.com DMs.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/lPM4lsxha63

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"Security. Cryptography. Whatever." is hosted by Deirdre Connolly (@durumcrustulum), Thomas Ptacek (@tqbf), and David Adrian (@davidcadrian).

OMB Zero Trust Memo, with Eric Mill

Fri, 10 Jun 2022 21:00:00 -0400

The US government released a memo about moving to a zero-trust network architecture. What does this mean? We have one of the authors, Eric Mill, on to explain it to us.

As always, your @SCWPod hosts are Deirdre Connolly (@durumcrustulum), Thomas Ptacek (@tqbf), and David Adrian (@davidcadrian).

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/UayEVA596OK

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Tink, with Sophie Schmieg

Sat, 28 May 2022 17:00:00 -0400

We talk about Tink with Sophie Schmieg, a cryptographer and algebraic geometer at Google.

Transcript: https://beta-share.descript.com/view/v2Q5Ix8pvbD

Links:

Sophie: https://twitter.com/SchmiegSophie
Tink: https://github.com/google/tink
RWC talk: https://youtube.com/watch?t=1028&v=CiH6iqjWpt8
Where to store keys: https://twitter.com/SchmiegSophie/status/1413502566797778948
EAX mode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EAX_mode
AES-GCM-SIV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES-GCM-SIV
Deterministic AEADs: https://github.com/google/tink/blob/master/docs/PRIMITIVES.md#deterministic-authenticated-encryption-with-associated-data
Thai Duong: https://twitter.com/XorNinja
AWS-SDK Vuln: https://twitter.com/XorNinja/status/1310587707605659649

"Security. Cryptography. Whatever." is hosted by Deirdre Connolly, Thomas Ptacek, and David Adrian.

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Cancellable Crypto Takes, and Real World Crypto

Tue, 12 Apr 2022 20:00:00 -0400

Live from Amsterdam, it's cancellable crypto hot takes! A fun little meme, plus a preview of the Real World Crypto program!

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/GiVlw4qKV2i

Links:

Tony's twete: https://twitter.com/bascule/status/1512539700220805124
Real World Crypto 2022: https://rwc.iacr.org/2022
Merch! https://merch.scwpodcast.com

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Lattices and Michigan Football, feat. Chris Peikert

Sat, 12 Mar 2022 22:00:00 -0500

We're back! With an episode on lattice-based cryptography, with Professor Chris Peikert of the University of Michigan, David's alma mater. When we recorded this, Michigan football had just beaten Ohio for the first time in a bajillion years, so you get a nerdy coda on college football this time!

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/El2a4Z7OLsd

Slides: https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~cpeikert/pubs/slides-qcrypt.pdf

Links:

He Gives C-Sieves on the CSIDH: https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/725
Lattice-based Cryptography: https://cims.nyu.edu/~regev/papers/pqc.pdf
NIST PQC Competition: https://csrc.nist.gov/Projects/post-quantum-cryptography
The 2nd Bar Ilan Winter School on Cryptography Lattice- Based Cryptography and Applications: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Vt-7cSFnw2OmpCmPLLwSx0-Yqb2ptqO
A Decade of Lattice Cryptography: https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/939.pdf

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Biscuits, feat. Geoffroy Couprie

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 01:00:00 -0500

We've trashed JWTs, discussed PASETO, Macaroons, and now, Biscuits! Actually, multiple iterations of Biscuits! Pairings and gamma signatures and Datalog, oh my! 🍪

Transcript: https://beta-share.descript.com/view/jHZJPab0n4g

Links:

Biscuits V2: https://www.biscuitsec.org

Experiments iterating on Biscuits: https://github.com/biscuit-auth/biscuit/tree/master/experimentations

Apache Pulsar: https://pulsar.apache.org

Spec: https://github.com/biscuit-auth/biscuit/blob/master/SPECIFICATIONS.md

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Tailscale, feat. Avery Pennarun and Brad Fitzpatrick

Sat, 15 Jan 2022 04:00:00 -0500

“Can I Tailscale my Chromecast?”

You love Tailscale, I love Tailscale, we loved talking to Avery Pennarun and Brad Fitzpatrick from Tailscale about, I dunno, Go generics. Oh, and TAILSCALE! And DNS. And WASM.

People:

Avery Pennarun (@apenwarr)
Brad Fitzpatrick (@bradfitz)
Deirdre Connolly (@durumcrustulum)
Thomas Ptacek (@tqbf)
David Adrian (@davidcadrian)
@SCWPod

Links:

DERP server: https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale/tree/main/derp
https://xtermjs.org/
The Tail at Scale : https://research.google/pubs/pub40801/
Raft: https://raft.github.io/
Litestream: https://litestream.io/
MagicDNS: https://tailscale.com/kb/1081/magicdns/
Netstack: https://github.com/google/netstack

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/2NAe5jEcEqB

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The feeling's mutual: mTLS, feat. Colm MacCárthaigh

Wed, 29 Dec 2021 01:00:00 -0500

We recorded this months ago, and now it's finally up!

Colm MacCárthaigh joined us to chat about all things TLS, S2N, MTLS, SSH, fuzzing, formal verification, implementing state machines, and of course, DNSSEC.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/tjrQu8wZKT0

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Holiday Call-in Spectacular!

Tue, 21 Dec 2021 21:00:00 -0500

Happy New Year! Feliz Navidad! Merry Yule! Happy Hannukah! Pour one out for the log4j incident responders!

We did a call-in episode on Twitter Spaces and recorded it, so that's why the audio sounds different. We talked about BLOCKCHAIN/Web3 (blech), testing, post-quantum crypto, client certificates, ssh client certificates, threshold cryptography, U2F/WebAuthn, car fob attacks, geese, and more!

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/N9ROtj1AiW0

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WireGuard, feat. Jason Donenfeld

Sun, 05 Dec 2021 17:00:00 -0500

Hey, a new episode! We had a fantastic conversation with Jason Donenfeld, creator of our favorite modern VPN protocol: WireGuard! We touched on kernel hacking, formal verification, post-quantum cryptography, developing with disassemblers, and more!

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/olVgXGtRpsY

Links:

WireGuard: https://www.wireguard.com
Tamarin: https://tamarin-prover.github.io
IDApro: https://hex-rays.com/ida-pro
NIST PQC: https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/post-quantum-cryptography/round-3-submissions
WireGuard Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/zx2c4

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PAKEs, oPRFs, algebra, feat. George Tankersley

Tue, 26 Oct 2021 19:00:00 -0400

A conversation that started with PAKEs (password-authenticated key exchanges) and touched on some cool math things: PRFs, finite fields, elliptic curve groups, anonymity protocols, hashing to curve groups, prime order groups, and more.

With special guest, George Tankersley!

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/X8x8oO2Q8Tw

Links:

SRP deprecation: https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/should-you-use-srp
OPAQUE: https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-cfrg-opaque-06.html
obfs: https://github.com/shadowsocks/simple-obfs
Elligator: https://elligator.cr.yp.to
Hash to Curve: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve-12.html
Magic Wormhole: https://github.com/magic-wormhole/magic-wormhole
Biscuits: https://github.com/CleverCloud/biscuit
Ristretto: https://ristretto.group
Monero signature bug: https://www.getmonero.org/ru/2017/05/17/disclosure-of-a-major-bug-in-cryptonote-based-currencies.html
SIDH smooth-order supersingular curves: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-662-53018-4_21

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"Patch, Damnit!"

Mon, 20 Sep 2021 04:00:00 -0400

A lot of fixes got pushed in the past week! Please apply your updates!
Apple, Chrome, Matrix, Azure, and more nonsense.

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Links!
The accuvant story in MIT Technology Review
All the Apple platforms patched FORCEDENTRY no-click 0-day
Chrome patched some 0-days that were being exploited in the wild
PASETO update

Transcript:
https://share.descript.com/view/Um4im6a3dqj

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How to be a Certificate Authority, feat. Ryan Sleevi

Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:00:00 -0400

Not the hero the internet deserves, but the one we need: it's Ryan Sleevi!

We get into the weeds on becoming a certificate authority, auditing said authorities, DNSSEC, DANE, taking over country code top level domains, Luxembourg, X.509, ASN.1, CBOR, more JSON (!), ACME, Let's Encrypt, and more, on this extra lorge episode with the web PKI's Batman.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/61pZGOJlqu6

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Apple's CSAM Detection, feat. Matthew Green

Fri, 27 Aug 2021 23:00:00 -0400

We're talking about Apple's new proposed client-side CSAM detection system. We weren't sure if we were going to cover this, and then we realized that not all of us have been paying super close attention to what the hell this thing is, and have a lot of questions about it. So we're talking about it, with our special guest Professor Matthew Green.

We cover how Apple's system works, what it does (and doesn't), where we have unanswered questions, and where some of the gaps are.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/cEni6L9rMxI

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Links:
https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/CSAM_Detection_Technical_Summary.pdf

https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Apple_PSI_System_Security_Protocol_and_Analysis.pdf

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2258A

https://www.missingkids.org/content/dam/missingkids/gethelp/2020-reports-by-esp.pdf

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive/exclusive-apple-dropped-plan-for-encrypting-backups-after-fbi-complained-sources-idUSKBN1ZK1CT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does

https://research.fb.com/blog/2021/02/understanding-the-intentions-of-child-sexual-abuse-material-csam-sharers/

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/09/us/internet-child-sex-abuse.html

https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Expanded_Protections_for_Children_Frequently_Asked_Questions.pdf

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Platform Security Part Deux, feat. Justin Schuh

Sat, 21 Aug 2021 00:00:00 -0400

We did not run out of things to talk about: Chrome vs. Safari vs. Firefox. Rust vs. C++. Bug bounties vs. exploit development. The Peace Corps vs. The Marine Corps.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/DpeqIOCREyZ

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What do we do about JWT? feat. Jonathan Rudenberg

Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:00:00 -0400

🔥JWT🔥

We talk about all sorts of tokens: JWT, PASETO, Protobuf Tokens, Macaroons, and Biscuits. With the great Jonathan Rudenberg!

After we recorded this, Thomas went deep on tokens even beyond what we talked about here: https://fly.io/blog/api-tokens-a-tedious-survey/

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/pb428e60pPo

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The Great "Roll Your Own Crypto" Debate, feat. Filippo Valsorda

Sat, 31 Jul 2021 18:00:00 -0400

Special guest Filippo Valsorda joins us to debate with Thomas on whether one should or should not "roll your own crypto", and how to produce better cryptography in general.

After we recorded this, David went even deeper on 'rolling your own crypto' in a blog post here: https://dadrian.io/blog/posts/roll-your-own-crypto/

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/2tqKjLxleKM

Links:
https://peter.website/meow-hash-cryptanalysis
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2107.04940.pdf
https://ristretto.group
https://filippo.io/heartbleed

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NSO group, Pegasus, Zero-Days, i(OS|Message) security

Mon, 26 Jul 2021 19:00:00 -0400

Deirdre, Thomas and David talk about NSO group, Pegasus, whether iOS a burning trash fire, the zero-day market, and whether rewriting all of iOS in Swift is a viable strategy for reducing all these vulns.

Transcript: https://share.descript.com/view/PQRb3nsY7N4

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"Security. Cryptography. Whatever." is hosted by Deirdre Connolly (@durumcrustulum), Thomas Ptacek (@tqbf), and David Adrian (@davidcadrian).